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Court Tells VP: Give Up the Documents

Score one for the good guys.

A federal judge has ordered the White House to release two years' worth of visitor logs outlining visitors to Vice President Dick Cheney's office and residence.

The order, by District Judge Ricardo Urbina, orders the Secret Service to give up the records by Oct. 27 or identify them and justify why they should not be released.

This comes three months after The Washington Post asked the White House for visitor logs covering people visiting Cheney, his legal counsel, chief spokesman and other aides. The Secret Service refused to handle the request, and attorneys representing the federal government called it "a fishing expedition into the most sensitive details of the vice presidency."

"Fishing expedition?" That old dog won't hunt.

(Whoops. I probably shouldn't write the words "hunt" and "Dick Cheney" in the same blog post! Somebody might get ideas.)

Remember, this is the same administration that vowed five years ago to fight the public release of any documents normally available under the Freedom of Information Act.

U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina ruled Wednesday that, by the end of next week, the Secret Service must produce the records or at least identity them and justify why they are being withheld.

The records' release could put the White House even deeper in the wheelhouse of the feds' Abramoff investigation as the GOP continues to reel from ethics scandals and investigations. Last month, it was learned that two key figures in the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal -- GOP activists Grover Norquist and Ralph Reed -- had visited the Bush White House more than 100 times.

Earlier this month, Susan Ralston, an aide to Karl Rove and former employee of Abramoff, resigned after a congressional report documented extensive contacts with Abramoff, her former employer.

It also appears to put the already unpopular White House into a deeper box. Give up the records and risk taking another political hit; fight against their release and look like you're hiding something. Again.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out!


Tags: Dick Cheney, Jack Abramoff, Ralph Reed, Susan Ralston (all tags)


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Why Are You Gleeful?

In spite of your comment about the White House vowing "to fight the public release of any documents normally available under the Freedom of Information Act," I don't think the Washington Post finding a judge to order information NOT covered by the FOIA is something to rejoice about.  And that link you mention -- I read it.  I think it is a SOUND memo -- it directed agencies to base decisions to reject releasing info on sound legal basis instead of "foreseeable harm."  The former you can quote from laws and regulations, the latter is more subjective.  

What troubles me is that you think this judge's decision is a good one.  To order the Secret Service, sworn to provide protection to our nation's leaders, to turn over the logs of visitors to those leaders, for the sole purpose of a reporter's curiosity and attempt to build a story in case one is there (yes, FISHING), not only does this:
(a) invade the VP's privacy and potentially endangers any past and future visitors (think terrorism -- if the visitor is from a country that is struggling with extremists or even a dictatorship, and as an opposition leader is seeking confidential meetings with our leaders), but
(b) I think this sends a chilling message to all of us.  In other words, look out -- there is no law requiring you to report who visits your home or place of business, but if someone -- a personal enemy, a business competitor -- decides to find a sympathetic judge, you may be hauled before the court to turn over records and phone logs...

by cebo on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 05:15:18 PM EST


Why Are You Gleeful?

Cebo, If your wondering why their so happy, it is because Cheney is a Republican.  If a judge had ordered the head of the Democratic party to turn over his/her documents Common Cause would be screaming foul and would be making this judge out to be a villain. It is called partisan politics.

by el profeta misterioso on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 03:38:22 AM EST
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Gleeful?

We're just glad that someone is showing that no public official is above the law.

Save your tired "Common Cause is happy because Cheney is a Republican" crap.

Just stow that patter right now, mi hijo.

We're encouraged by this ruling because it means SOMEBODY in this country believes the laws matter and we have the right to know who Dick Cheney has been associating with. Now, is it the final ruling? No, but it makes sense that they should tell us who's been visiting him.

If the man has nothing to hide, the documents will speak for themselves. But the longer he protests, the more it seems something is rotten.  

by James Benton on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 10:56:33 AM EST
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Just curious

James Benton are you a Democrat??

by La Perla on Wed Oct 25, 2006 at 04:49:21 PM EST
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My favorite sparring partner

It's James' decision if he wants to answer this or not, but La Perla knows my stance on this.  I don't believe it's anyone's business what my personal political beliefs or affiliations are outside of what I choose to express on this blog.  You know my opinion on ethics reform and campaign finance reform, but that doesn't mean you're entitled to my opinion of the Iraq War or who I voted for in the last election.  Political beliefs are deeply personal, and just because you want to know doesn't mean we should tell you.

Then there's also my conviction that if I tell you I'm a Democrat, you'll discount everything I write as partisan spin, and if I say I'm a Republican or Independent, you'll call me a liar.

by Kirstin Ellison on Thu Oct 26, 2006 at 11:38:38 AM EST
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What do you care, La Perla?

I am an American.

by James Benton on Wed Nov 01, 2006 at 01:19:20 PM EST
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Cebo -- WAY off base

Some of Cebo's comments are so off-base I don't know where to begin. Cases in federal courts are assigned AT RANDOM, so to think the Post found a sympathetic judge is absolutely incorrect.

Second, the issue of invasion of privacy in dealing with the White House is also ill-conceived. The president and vice-president, as elected officials, are our employees. Not employees for the Republicans or for the Democrats. For the American public. There is no "invasion of privacy" here. The bottom line is: you deserve to know who is visiting the president and vice president. These documents are routinely turned over to the news media to disclose who visited the president and vice-president, gifts they received, etc.

Third, there is a different standard for private citizens. Last time I checked, FOIA didn't apply to unelected, private citizens, so there's no way a rival could demand to know who's been visiting you. FOIA does apply to government officials and their actions, and given that it appears the Abramoff investigation may be headed toward the White House from Congress, you'd better want to know.

The fact of the matter is, this interpretation of FOIA via the Ashcroft memo may make you less safe in the process. If there's a chemical plant in your community, or a rail line hauling hazardous materials through it, your firefighters and rescue teams can't even find out from the Department of Homeland Security what might be there so they can draw up plans to keep you safe. Why? Their interpretation of the Ashcroft memo. Ask the people around the Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland why they can't find out about the hazardous chemicals in their water or how to get it cleaned up -- because the federal government is refusing to disclose the information to the residents so they can decide the best way to clean it up.

So Cebo, put down what you've been smoking and WAKE UP. These are folks who think you are better off being in the dark, regardless of the circumstances. Maybe you don't want to know what the government is trying to hide from you, but I sure do.    

by James Benton on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 10:23:14 AM EST
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Ricardo Urbana another liberal judge

Common Cause loves this judge because he is a liberal.  Here is another one of his liberal rulings.

"A May 10 Associated Press article reports that U.S. District Judge Ricardo Urbana is allowing four former detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to pursue a lawsuit alleging their U.S. captors violated their religious rights."

Yes, score one for the good guys, like Urbana who is allowing terrorists to sue us now!

by el profeta misterioso on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 03:47:50 AM EST


Judge Urbina

We don't give a damn about Judge Urbana or his politics. But you seem to get an awfully mighty kick out of watching our nation's leaders treat the Constitution like toilet paper.

This isn't about his ruling on detainees at Guantanamo. This is about his ruling on who's been visiting the vice president, so stick to the subject matter.

There is a FEDERAL investigation of Jack Abramoff going on that's included the Interior Department, the House and Senate, several committees. It's brought down one member of Congress, may cost another his Senate seat and could spread to other members of Congress. It's cost one of his former aides her job in the White House. Abramoff has visited the White House numerous times to seek favors. It's landed him two prison sentences for wire fraud and bribery.

Everywhere this guy has gone, trouble has followed. You betcha we need to know if he's been to see Cheney, and the FBI says they're continuing this investigation.

And hey: since you're so geeked up about Guantanamo, why don't you head on over there and give us a report?  

Oh, never mind. You don't seem to care when the feds break the rules, so I guess you'd like to see Abramoff get away with bilking his clients out of tens of millions of dollars.  

Hasta la vista, baby.

NEXT!    

by James Benton on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 10:50:14 AM EST
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The revolution begins

"A federal judge has ordered the White House..." that's really something, isn't it? Well, they refuse, it doesn't matter anymore. Someone had the guts.
Discount Drugs

by famir on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 04:19:49 PM EST


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