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Florida House and Senate pass paper ballot law! And more!

Here's an update on the fast changing world of election reform.

Florida's House unanimously passed the same bill that passed the Senate and that Governor Crist will sign. Who'd have thought this was possible a year ago! Kudos to the activists in Florida who've fought night and day for years for this.

Word has just come in that the scheduled committee mark-up on HR 811, "The Voter Confidence and Increased Accessiblity Act of 2007" (AKA the "Holt bill") has been postponed due to next Tuesday, May 8, due to the number of proposed minority amendments. See this DailyKos comment by Ian Storrar.

Yesterday, the U.S. House voted to ask the GAO to investigate the case of Sarasota's District 13 voting problems. For more, read The Hill's report.

The Kansas legislature has killed a Photo ID bill.

And evidence continues to mount in the link between the DOJ U.S. Attorneys Firing scandal and efforts to create a perception of rampant voter fraud, as described in this hard-hitting McClatchy article, "2006 Missouri's election was ground zero for GOP." I'll end with this juicy quote:

The preoccupation with ballot fraud in Missouri was part of a wider national effort that critics charge was aimed at protecting the Republican majority in Congress by dampening Democratic turnout. That effort included stiffer voter-identification requirements, wholesale purges of names from lists of registered voters and tight policing of liberal get-out-the-vote drives.

Bush administration officials deny those claims. But they've gotten traction in recent weeks because three of the U.S. attorneys ousted by the Justice Department charge that they lost their jobs because they failed to prove Republican allegations of voter fraud. They say their inquiries found little evidence to support the claims.

Few have endorsed the strategy of pursuing allegations of voter fraud with more enthusiasm than White House political guru Karl Rove. And nowhere has the plan been more apparent than in Missouri.



Tags: election reform, Florida, In the States, paper ballots, Holt bill, voter fraud (all tags)


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Amendments on Holt can't save presidential 08

The following single point is completely fatal to Holt, and won't change.   Let's keep our EYES ON THE PRIZE, the presidential election 2008.  That's a Holt-supporter focus even though as explained below the presidential is uniquely vlunerable to not being counted properly as we all know from Bush v. Gore 2000.    

Remember the December 13 drop-dead deadline for the PRESIDENTIAL election????  That was the reason Bush v. Gore could decide the presidential election in 2000 by first staying or terminating the Florida recounts via a stay order, and then a few days later claiming that "time ran out" in the subsequent opinion and effectively deciding the election for Bush.    The Bush v. Gore opinion is dated December 12, 2000.  http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZPC.html  The deadline was December 13.  

But it's even worse than just running out the clock.   The Supreme Court granted the STAY on the grounds that Bush's apparent victory would be "irreparably damaged" by continued recounting, and this rationale applies at all times after the first count.   So, we certainly can't count on an audit or recount in the PRESIDENTIAL election.  (maybe in dog catcher, OK, and in lower courts, fine.).  

I mean, c'mon guys.  Eyes on the prize, am I making an "argument" here or is it proven historical fact that the US Supreme Court can and will terminate a recount/audit in Florida especially???  Aren't these post-election "remedies" of recounts/audits the only solace that Holt is offering us for ANY election?   (They are).  But a legal reality check shows us that the first counts are essentially the only ones that matter.

The Holt Nutshell on Vote Counting:   With regard to vote counting, the Holt bill is a trade off that lets vendors keep completely secret first counts, and in extraordinarily poor compensation for those totally corrupt and unreliable secret first counts, Holt substitutes "verifiability" in the form of audits of 3% to 10%.   Because these audits in turn then change precinct results, they are the functional equivalents of partial recounts.   But partial recounts/audits are something that even Florida state courts found unconstitutional when Gore asked for them.  

(I will grant you that the vast majority of local courts lack courage to follow bush v. gore, but again we are keeping our eyes on the prize of the presidential election, and the Supreme Court).  

But of course the presidential election merits US Supreme Court treatment....  

But we know of one court that has the courage to terminate an election in the recount phase, and it's not a lower court.  It's a court that only takes big cases of its own choosing.  It's a court that's more partisan today than it was in 2000.  It's the US Supreme Court.  It can grant certiorari if only to interpret its own language in 2000 saying that the Bush v Gore case was decided on its own facts.    

In all cases of constitutional interpretation the US Supreme Court is the final un-reviewable and un-appealable authority on what constitutional Equal Protection means, period.   They alone get to decide what is meant by the Constitution.

But people keep saying, in favor of Holt, that we've got to have something, anything, in place for 2008.   That's what motivates well-intentioned folks to sell out their public first count democracy in favor of expensive, litigious, hazardous and unworkable post-election pipe dreams.   But even pursuing pipe dreams might be understandable if only Bush v. Gore, 531 US 98 (2000) weren't there to teach us the error of investing in post-election "fixes."

I'm one of the handful of lawyers that do congressional election contests.  I could make more money with more disputable "paper trail" elections but I'm saying "don't go there" because you are hurting our democracy if you do.  WE can't tolerate secret first counts in the vain hope of a proper recount or audit not stayed by the US SUpreme Court or some other politically "sensitive" court.

PR Finn.

PS If you seek the solution to this huge problem, invest your time only in first count & public count democracy.  Those investments, while they may take longer to bear fruit, will continue to pay dividends endlessly.  Whereas if you are either for or against the complications of the Holt bill, your entire investment in public education is largely or totally wiped out every single time the details of the bill change.  JFK said the work of democracy never ends.  We got into this trouble because too many people stopped teaching and working democracy.  Use it, or lose it.

by PR Finn on Fri May 04, 2007 at 04:24:54 PM EST


Kansas voters make right choice

What an outrage, why the heck should we have to show ID to vote. It is bad enough that I have to reach into my wallet and show ID when I use my debit card, now these Nazi's want me to show ID to vote, this is ridiculous. So what if there is voter fraud and illegal immigrants are voting, WE as Democrats are the ones who benefit. If illegal immigrants voted for Republicans, I would be all for having to show ID and would demand tougher laws to prevent voter fraud as would Common Cause, but as long as not showing IDs helps the Democrats, then I'm with Barb Burt, against having to show IDs.

by Demoforlife on Sun May 06, 2007 at 03:07:06 PM EST


Why are some people okay with disenfranchisement?

There is no evidence that illegal immigrants commit voter fraud en masse.  Voter ID bills aren't legitimate attempts to keep illegal immigrants from the polls - but they will keep legal voters, including minorities and the impoverished, from exercising their constitutional right.  It's true that minorities and the poor are assumed to lean Democratic, but it saddens me that that has become the central importance of this issue - people are being denied their legal right to vote!  Why are some people not bothered by that?

by Kirstin Ellison on Sun May 06, 2007 at 07:47:24 PM EST
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Re: Okay with Disenfranchisement

Why are people not bothered by it? I think it's a bit of apathy, mixed with a healthy case of the "don't give a craps", and a dose of "damn furinners". But that's just my opinion.

by steveellison on Fri May 11, 2007 at 10:06:37 AM EST
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Hey, bro

Unfortunately, I think it's much more than that at times - fear-mongering, racism, and blatant partisan shenanigans all play a role in this sorry pageant.

by Kirstin Ellison on Tue May 15, 2007 at 12:28:59 PM EST
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BB & Common Cause dont care about ethics

The comment above was to point out the dishonesty and hypocrisy of Barb Burt and Common Cause. Common Cause constantly talks about getting the vote right by 2008 and stopping voter fraud and all this other garbage they say, but any intelligent person knows that Common Cause is a liberal organization and is lying to us calling themselves non-partisan. Any rational human being knows having to show an ID, would help prevent illegal aliens from voting and would help prevent voter fraud. But because illegals support the Democrats not the Republicans Common Cause looks the other way or even worse supports the potential increase in voter fraud by speaking out against tougher laws and Barb Burt on many occasions has played the race card, to try and scare people into accepting the flawed voting system the way it is. Common Cause needs to come clean and list the political party of every person the writes on this blog or should just admit they are all liberals and Democrats and there whole purpose is to promote the Liberal Agenda while pretending to be unbiased.

by Demoforlife on Sun May 06, 2007 at 03:38:48 PM EST


dude, you're wrong

You cannot seriously ask for the political affiliation of people you don't even know - what right is it of yours to demand information that is inherently private?  Or does the phrase "secret ballot" mean nothing to you?  My boss doesn't know who I voted for in the last election - why should you?  

Common Blog contributors have responded before that they have voted for Democrats, Republicans, and Independents - what more do you want?  Can we agree that "liberal" does not equal "Democrat" any more than "conservative" equals "Republican"?  Not everyone in the world is registered with a party - you can accept that, right?  And even if they are, surely you don't mean to imply that that party registration automatically defines their entire political ideology.

I must admit that I fail to understand what you're trying to accomplish with these accusatory comments.  If you're never going to accept that Common Cause works on public interest issues that matter to all Americans, then I don't see how you can be satisfied.  I can repeat over and over again that just because Common Cause disagrees with you on an issue doesn't mean we're a Democratic organization.  I can point out, again, that during the Clinton administration our critics accused us of being Republicans.  I can remind you that Common Cause was founded by John Gardner, a great man who also happened to be a Republican.  

I could go on, but somehow, I don't think it would ever be enough for you.  You've already made up your mind about us, and you seem unwilling to change your opinion.

by Kirstin Ellison on Sun May 06, 2007 at 07:41:50 PM EST
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